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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:00:00 -
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Any EVE player worth their salt is going to tell that this is yet another scheme of Gevlon's that's bound to fail.
Besides, may I remind you all that the reason Gevlon is trying and failing to wage meaningful opposition against us is only because he views himself as a high ranking EVE player, and he wants to join GoonWaffe, which he sees as the highest ranking organization in EVE that suits his playstyle?
To paraphrase, Gevlon does not want to be in MoA. For all intents and purposes, I do not see Gevlon as holding MoA in high regard. On the contrary, he wants to be in GoonWaffe. He attempted to join, and he was told to fulfill the membership criteria and try again. (Which is create a SA account, contribute posts)
But no, Gevlon thought he was above that. So he started his going nowhere project to prove a point. Everything I mentioned above is evident in his blog posts and comments.
As such, any MoA who buys into Gevlon's false narrative is just suffering to get Gevlon into GoonWaffe.
Do I have to tell you Gevlon, that you are never getting in? |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:16:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Cherry Yeyo wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:Pointing out the way someone else legitimately claims victory is trolling now? Honestly mate, this whole thread is a giant attack on the players that play goons, not the characters. There's literally no way this thread is going to get anywhere except to trolling, so why even bother leaving it open? The nutjob has said his part, nothing more needs to be added. TBH I've seen more attacks made by goons than posts attacking goons in this thread. Now, to stay on topic: ALMS! Alms for the poor! I said ALMS goddammit! (preferably sent directly to my character , but you can use the donation page too. ) will you buy supers or interceptors with your alms? Buy Super Alt Char ---> Buy Super ---> Drop on ratting Carrier ---> Get tackled --> Generate Hilarious lossmail with inertial stabilizer fit Hel/Nyx. That's what I'll do with any alms sent my way, content for everyone.
Make sure to do that. But it won't help Gevlon get into GoonWaffe. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:19:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:So you claim that dozens of Goons trolling with a few million is important.
Total amount of CFC contributions easily come close and match the top non-CFC donations. It's not just a few millions. But by your flawed logic, that should put the nonsense that 'Goons are poor' to bed.
I mean, according to Gevlon, a Goon can only make 600m per month!
Everybody who has contributed academically to the science of statistics are turning in their graves. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
144
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Posted - 2014.09.11 09:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:what's the opportunity cost of parsing killboard data and making charts and graphs and making ISK to fund projects intended to destroy the people who denied your membership application (with a success rate of 0%) vs. paying $10 for a forum account and making a hundred posts to fulfill membership requirements (with a success rate of 100%)
i ask this because gevlon really likes to talk about opportunity cost w/r/t all the precious time we waste shooting structures in our terrible, terrible bombless bombers (which according to renowned PvP expert Gevlon Goblin are solely intended for bombing and their bonuses to torpedoes are solely cosmetic)
He is losing out on station trading and farming Thukker mining missions in Hodrold on at least six alts. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
145
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Posted - 2014.09.13 09:26:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Ryno Caval wrote:Wait FCON is a PVE alliance nobody told me Ask any random Goon, he can verify this statement.
Nope. But if you believe FCON is a PvE alliance, why don't you try joining FCON instead since according to your posts, that is your ~playstyle?~
You are never getting into GoonWaffe. We do not feel that you are capable enough as an individual to follow extremely simple instructions. We have certain standards to uphold I'm afraid. Sorry, Gevlon. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
147
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Posted - 2014.09.16 18:30:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:He tried to PvP hahaha.
That is indeed a terrible lolpost.
By the way, are you from Hard Knocks? Were you on the killmail, or did you share an affiliation with the majority of people on the killmail? No? Do Hard Knocks need the pitiful pocket change you are offering?
(Answer to the questions above is no)
We Goons literally offered sacrificial multi billion ships on our NPSI day for our blues to shoot at. That comes from line members individual wallets. Nobody cares about throwing billions away for laughs and commemorating a fallen comrade. A few billions is not an exceptional amount for a line member of a sov holding null-sec entity.
It has been told to you several times. Money making in EVE, especially to the members of an entity such as CFC is a non-trivial matter. Everybody can make ISK quite easily. Since making money have been your only measurable achievement in your two years of play time, you have a strong bias against understanding how everyone else can easily make money in this game without sweating too much about it.
It seems to me that your problem is vanity. You really want to believe that you are exceptionally skilled and that led you to become one of the wealthiest people in EVE. Having been able to make ISK have been your only claim to being successful in this game. You need that self perception to further spend your time and real life resources in EVE. You need to be able think that you are doing good for yourself in your EVE career.
Unfortunately, you are neither exceptionally skilled or wealthy. None of your projects has affected the politics of EVE. You, as an individual, never had influence over the metagame.
This is why you are getting laughed at and not taken seriously by any entity that matters not just in null-sec, but pretty much in the entirety of EVE. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
148
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Posted - 2014.09.18 17:27:00 -
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Another proof that Gevlon does not know what he is talking about. But I suppose he will eventually roll this up to MoA being terrible and insist that his non-sensical theories are effective on achieving an objective. (They aren't) |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.18 19:41:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Another proof that Gevlon does not know what he is talking about. But I suppose he will eventually roll this up to MoA being terrible and insist that his non-sensical theories are effective on achieving an objective. (They aren't)
- MoA lost less members in the last 30 days than PBLRD. I'm sure they'll be OK. At least they aren't at the point when they let anyone in for 250M.
- Size doesn't matter, Marmite Collective lost 1/3 of their members in the last 3 months without any decrease in killing CFC
- Do I have MoA ticker? If MoA really failcascades (they won't), I just look at the CFC loss table, pick the #1 (likely PASTA) and support them. The bottleneck is money. Finding someone who shoot CFC for it isn't that hard.
PBLRD numbers fluctuate all the time. Renter arrangements are done periodically. MoA is not a renter alliance. You're comparing apples and oranges there.
Besides, size does matter. There's serious strife within MoA currently, because we are killing their main means of income and permacamping the NPC station they stage in with a token force. You really should request access to MoA forums and read the line members thoughts. The rage and anger about not being able to do anything is huge. Everytime I read up MoA forums, I chuckle.
You do not have any ticker, yet you have the audacity to claim their kills with insignificant contributions. This is why you are called out on shifting goal posts. If say, MoA or Marmite could harm us in a meaningful way, you'd be the first in line to claim credit for it. Yet when they suffer and start to bleed out, you say "I don't have their ticker". In that case, you wasted your time and money on a fool's errand.
Seriously Gevlon, is there any permanent strategic damage you have incurred on CFC so far? You keep saying that you made us give up our highsec POCOs, yet the truth of the matter is, we only transferred them to RvB, which you claim to be our highsec arm.
You have been spending months of time and billions of ISK on this 'project', yet you have nothing to show up for. And the weirdest thing here is, I actually want you to continue wasting your time and ISK on a wild goose chase. It is quite funny.
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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.09.19 20:14:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Camping MoA in an NPC station? If only we had some sort of technology where you could jump your clone elsewhere... Seriously though... ...camping someone in a NPC station? How can you camp, the uncampable?
Area denial. Why don't you come over to 5Z and try to operate out of there? |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.09.20 22:34:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Camping MoA in an NPC station? If only we had some sort of technology where you could jump your clone elsewhere... Seriously though... ...camping someone in a NPC station? How can you camp, the uncampable? Area denial. Why don't you come over to 5Z and try to operate out of there? I'm sure they are devastated for not being able to "operate" in one NPC system.
They are, just make sure to check MoA forums out to see the anger about it. |
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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
152
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Posted - 2014.09.21 11:52:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Alp Khan wrote: Their directors know that themselves and the base membership is truly terrible at EVE, that's why they try to skew the numbers and focus solely on numbers as MoA has nothing to else to show for when it comes to achievements, assets or victories in the game of null sec politics.
Translation: MoA has very good numbers, but Goons are better in unmeasurable, opinionated stuff.
No, they do not have very good numbers at all. Your so called method of measurement is very much flawed, however even if one takes your measurement as fact (which it isn't) one will see that in any occasion that whatever MoA fought could shoot back, MoA lost the field and the engagement.
Ultimate measurement in null is the ability to project power and being able to hold control of assets and space that generate income at both individual and organizational levels. MoA has struggled in the past many times to do the above, but every time they tried, they were stomped to the ground. On the other hand, what GSF and CFC can do needs no explanation here.
There is only one thing MoA is semi competent at: It is finding excuses for being at the bottom of the food chain in null and not being able to hold onto and control any assets and power. It is hilarious to watch MoA to come up with ~independence~ narrative for instance, when they couldn't hold sov or any structures in space, for that matter. They can't form up and defend even a single POS.
MoA is the laughing stock of anybody who is a serious player in null. They are a joke. Even our traditional enemies in the classical sense chuckle themselves when they hear about MoA. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:17:00 -
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Gevlon Goblin wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:So why is this entire thread allowed to exist? It's a troll thread designed to incite hatred based around a real life attack on a group of players. And yet disagreeing with that troll is seemingly not allowed. Is it just that it's fine to personally attack other players as long as you offer a bounty on their ships at the same time? "Goons are evil" is not a troll, it's the consensus opinion. Actually hatred against Goons is something Goons loved: they provoked it and then laughed hard on the impotent rage of their victims. No Goon ever claimed that Burn Jita had any other purpose then making people mad. The only reason it changes is that Goon hate is no longer impotent. No, I'm not claiming credit here for PASTA destroying PBLRD in PB. Nor with the countless "NPC trash" groups killing 4x more CFC than those who have rational reason to kill CFC (the competing coalitions). I claim credit for the nearly 2T Goons and minions dying in highsec this year though. You don't want to be hated? Stop being hateful! Stop yelling "pubbie shitlord" to everyone who is not you, stop pogroms against "highsec publords" and don't call your own renters "PBLRD". Maybe have some solidarity with your minions by clicking the same paplinks like them.
Bullcrap. There is no such consensus opinion as you claim, making all of your similar claims invalid. Playing EVE does not make someone evil.
Besides, by claiming that Goons are evil, you juxtapose your own standing. You have, as you have admitted publicly, tried to emulate some of the activities that Goons are perceived as participants of. Moreover, you have publicly claimed before that commonly perceived Goon play style is something that you fit in perfectly. Therefore, by your own accord, if Goons are 'evil', you are evil.
No wonder why pretty much everyone in the know of EVE's meta currently is laughing at you. Besides constantly shifting goal posts as you constantly fail to achieve objectives, you seem to be unable to keep up any sense of consistency in your false narrative.
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Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2014.09.25 05:31:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:To be fair the only thing Lucas Kell has hurt in game is perhaps an asteroid.
To be fair, one should first look at his own personal attempts of shifting the meta game so far and take into account the lack of any results, and with that knowledge of clear failure, should consider making claims like the above about the others. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.09.25 23:08:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:To be fair the only thing Lucas Kell has hurt in game is perhaps an asteroid. To be fair, one should first look at his own personal attempts of shifting the meta game so far and take into account the lack of any results, and with that knowledge of clear failure, should consider making claims like the above about the others. What meta/goal post shifting have I done?
I haven't seen you specify any goals publicly, therefore I cannot attest to you shifting any goals. But you attempted to influence the meta in the past, if my memory serves me right, to no avail. |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.03 11:11:00 -
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From his recent rubbish, it's obvious that he also has a delusion of being taken seriously on top of the other delusion that he has an affect on null-sec. It turns out our leadership is instructing line members about what they should post in forums!
On the other hand, this whole inarbitrary bounty thing which distributes peanuts (20B) every month made me realize that second delusion is very similar to what I would like to exemplify from real life: If everybody had a similar delusion about their own actions, people would be buying a single unit of Microsoft stock and then start babbling about how they managed to dominate the consumer OS market by themselves.
"Oh hey, I bought some Microsoft stock. Now let me tell you about how I'm singlehandedly dominating the the consumer OS market friends!"
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